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    Thoughts on the recent Xmas "holiday"

    Post  Arik on Mon Dec 26, 2011 10:16 am

    What's funny, I was talking to a xtian friend of mine and was telling her about the differences between our religions. The strange thing ( and the consistent thing) about secular holidays is that they are so material. Think about it..Our high holidays like Yom Kippur and Rosh Hashanah we are forbidden to handle money.. Could you imagine a secular holiday where buying/selling is forbidden??
    What would happen if on New years eve, nobody could go to the bars, buy booze, etc. What would happen to Xmas?
    It's strange, people spend months of the Xmas season spending money hand over fist and making out lists for things they want, right after a holiday where they give thanks for what they already have By the time the day rolls around, it lasts a grand total of a few hours and then you hear almost everyone say "I am so glad that's over!"
    How sad.
    Our holidays are not built around material or money, they last for days, and oddly, I have never said at the end of a Jewish holiday "I am so glad that's over" not even on Yom Kippur when I can break my fast. The Joy of Jewish holidays is so much more deeply rooted in the spiritual as opposed to "what we can get" or what we can buy, there is so much less stress involved, so much more deeper joy. If only those on the outside of it would or could know....


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    Post  Adi on Mon Dec 26, 2011 4:09 pm

    The original concept of Xmas gifts was only to mimic the 3 wise men and their gifts to jsus. It use to to be a lot simpler. Between marketing and the media the whole concept has been twisted. Even our Chanukah celebration has become more than it should because of it falling so close to Xmas. I get asked every year what did I get for Chanukah. Thankfully none of our other holidays have "gift" connotations or we'd be in the same boat as xtians and Xmas. It it sad that their religious meaning gets swept away by commercialism, but they also have let it happen. I think Jews try to be more resistant at Chanukah. I'm glad for our holidays especially Yom Kippur where we have to "give up" something. And not just food. Pride, holding a grudge...I'll give up the pretty wraping paper for a more spiritual hloiday.
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    Re: Thoughts on the recent Xmas "holiday"

    Post  Arik on Tue Dec 27, 2011 12:20 pm

    Adi wrote:The original concept of Xmas gifts was only to mimic the 3 wise men and their gifts to jsus..

    I always thought it was supposed to mimic the "gift" of jsus...


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    Re: Thoughts on the recent Xmas "holiday"

    Post  Yehudah on Tue Dec 27, 2011 8:36 pm

    You are both wrong. There is a fantastic 38 minute lecture on the subject here: http://torahanytime.com/Rabbi/Search/index.html?lecture=xmas&lecture_ID=

    Listen to it carefully, it's incredible, and true.


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