Arik wrote:Well, you are lucky. I am trying to sell a house and buy one at the same time. at Least you are moving...
OK, so you dont accept the KJV even though i believe it was Ctaholics who translated it
The KJV is a very well done edition: a tad out of date when it comes to translating from the best manuscripts, but nothing to turn a nose up at. It is NOT a Catholic Bible though, nor was it translated by Catholics.
An easy way to see if a Bible is Catholic or not is to simply glance at whether it contains the "Apocrypha." Conservative and Traditionalist Catholics (these are two VERY different and distinct groups) use the Douay-Rheims, the Revised Standard Version (RSV), or Oxford (with Apocrypha). The New American Bible (NAB) is the mainstream than all of the above though and is the most commonly found Catholic Bible.
Arik wrote:So How do you consider this:
Mark 13:32 But of that day and [that] hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. (KJV)
There are things that G-d keeps from Himself? Is such a thing even possible? Its obvious that these verses contradict Jsus being equal and of the same substance as G-d Almighty. Chrstian s say hes G-d, and then they say hes the Son of G-d. Make up your mind. Which one is he? Is he G-d or is he the Messiah? He cant be both, and closer examination will show he is neither.
A common stumbling block. So common, in fact, that the Douay-Rheims has a cite to it with explanation.
"Nor the Son"... Not that the Son of God is absolutely ignorant of the day of judgment, but that he knoweth it not, as our teacher; that is, he knoweth it not so as to teach it to us, as not being expedient.
http://www.drbo.org/chapter/48013.htm
There are more in depth explanations, and I'd be happy to go into it more if you'd like. But that is a short, easily citable one.
Arik wrote: Quote: Ezekiel 37:23 Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwelling places, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their G-d. [24] And David My servant [shall be] king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them. (KJV)
Chrstians and Jews agree that chapter 37 of Ezekiel is messianic. The object of verse 24 of Ezekiel 37 is the Messiah, and it is clear that the Messiah is G-ds servant, and not G-d Himself.
Naturally, I disagree.
Now the book of Ezekiel was written about 600 BC which would be about 400 years after the death of King David. Does this verse mean that King David will be resurrected and reign over Israel or does it mean something else? The name David means "beloved or dear." (Rom 1:3 KJV) Concerning his Son J-sus Chr-st our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; David was made of the seed of Chr-st according to the Spirit. Chr-st was in the lineage of David. (John 7:42 KJV) Hath not the scripture said, That Christ cometh of the seed of David, and out of the town of Bethlehem, where David was?
(Acts 15:16 KJV) After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up: The tabernacle of David is a synonym for the building up of the Church. (Acts 2:34 KJV) For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The L-rd said unto my L-rd, Sit thou on my right hand, When speaking of the resurrection of Chr-st this passage makes a clear declaration the David did not ascend into heaven. The L-rd J-sus Chr-st was the one who ascended into heaven. So when G-d uses David in Ezekiel 37:24 he is telling us that Chr-st will be the one who will be King over them.
G-d goes on to say that this king will also be the one shepherd which will be over them. David was a shepherd of sheep but the L-rd J-sus Chr-st is the Shepherd of His Church. (John 10:11 KJV) I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep. David did not give his life for the sheep but the L-rd J-sus Chr-st did. In the balance of this verse G-d reiterates that those who follow the shepherd will be obedient to His statutes and laws. This type of obedience is only found in the redeemed.