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    The Amish come to Israel, ask Jews for forgiveness

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    Arik
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    The Amish come to Israel, ask Jews for forgiveness

    Post  Arik on Fri Dec 03, 2010 3:01 pm

    http://www.israeltoday.co.il/default.aspx?tabid=178&nid=22352


    In a seemingly unprecedented move, a group of Amish Christians from the US made widespread use of modern technology - including airplanes, tour buses and even iPhones - in order to come to Israel and apologize to the Jews.
    The Amish are most notable to outsiders for their shunning of the technological conveniences that have made life so fast-paced for everyone else. But they did not shy away from using whatever means necessary to accomplish what they viewed as the vitally important task of making things right between their community and Israel.
    The Amish, both in the US and Europe, have a long history of anti-Semitism and have traditionally been firm proponents of Replacement Theology, which claims that God cast aside the Jews for their widespread rejection of Jesus as their messiah. Many Amish once believed the Nazi Holocaust was God’s punishment for that rejection of Jesus, and actually applauded Hitler.
    “We are here to say we are sorry,” group leader Ben Girod told Israel’s Channel 2 News as the group visited the Western Wall in Jerusalem. “God reminded me that this is not who He is. We no longer want to reject you or look at you as not being God’s people. You were God’s people long before we were.”
    Group member Jonas added, “Our people have had some bad attitudes toward the Jewish people and have rejected the Jewish people to a certain extent, and we have come to restore that and apologize.”
    In another clip, Girod is shown reading Psalm 121:4 to the group, reminding them that “He who keeps Israel will neither slumber nor sleep.”
    But the group did not only speak of these things amongst themselves. A strong declaration printed on a beautiful parchment was presented Rabbi Shmuel Rabinovitch, who oversees the Western Wall, on behalf of the entire Amish community. In the declaration, the Amish ask Israel’s forgiveness “for our collective sin of pride and selfishness by ignoring the plight of the Jewish people and the nation of Israel.”
    The document concludes by committing the Amish from this point forward to speak out strongly in support of the Jews and the Jewish state.
    During their stay in Jerusalem, the group made great efforts to interact with average Israelis, who needed little prodding to satisfy their curiosity regarding these odd-looking foreigners who had come with a message of such warmth and love.
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    Post  Philip on Sat Dec 04, 2010 4:58 pm

    This must be very serious for them since they broke all their rules for transportation to get to Israel. I pretty much think all Christian sects feel they have replaced Israel as God's chosen people. This was some of the rationalization that they did amongst themselves during the holocaust.... "those Jew haven't turned to Jesus yet so they get what they deserve"

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    Re: The Amish come to Israel, ask Jews for forgiveness

    Post  walker on Sat Dec 04, 2010 10:02 pm

    Philip wrote:This must be very serious for them since they broke all their rules for transportation to get to Israel. I pretty much think all Christian sects feel they have replaced Israel as God's chosen people. This was some of the rationalization that they did amongst themselves during the holocaust.... "those Jew haven't turned to Jesus yet so they get what they deserve"

    I was raised Christian and I was never taught that we replaced Jews as God's chosen people. I have however heard of some people claiming it... BTW since when so the Amish represent most Christian sects? I'm glad they have come around to what most Christians believe though. Next... getting them to grow mustaches! lol!
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    Post  Arik on Sat Dec 04, 2010 10:27 pm

    Well, as I have said on another forum, perhaps I am reading too much into his statement. However I would wonder if many Israelis even know who the heck the Amish are?
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    Re: The Amish come to Israel, ask Jews for forgiveness

    Post  Philip on Mon Dec 06, 2010 11:21 pm

    Well I was going to make a joke about their 19th Century clothing and lifestyle but there are Jews who wear clothes based off the styles of 18th Century Eastern Europe!

    Walker I'm not trying to start a debate, but I hear the Replacement thing all the time. The Church is the Spiritual Israel.... God threw away the Jews and His promises to them when they rejected Jesus. Testament means Covenant.... the New Covenant is the New Testament. Out with the Old and in with the New.

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    Post  walker on Tue Dec 07, 2010 1:02 am

    Philip wrote:Well I was going to make a joke about their 19th Century clothing and lifestyle but there are Jews who wear clothes based off the styles of 18th Century Eastern Europe!

    Walker I'm not trying to start a debate, but I hear the Replacement thing all the time. The Church is the Spiritual Israel.... God threw away the Jews and His promises to them when they rejected Jesus. Testament means Covenant.... the New Covenant is the New Testament. Out with the Old and in with the New.

    All Christians believe that church is the spiritual Israel, I can't think of any that don't. But most of us believe that that has nothing to do with G_d's promise's toward the Jewish people. G_d is always faithful to his promises. The new doesn't replace the old.

    I don't want to get too deep into doctrine... but he made a covenant with Jewish people that he keeps today. His word and promises stand forever
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    Re: The Amish come to Israel, ask Jews for forgiveness

    Post  Arik on Thu Dec 09, 2010 12:15 pm

    Philip wrote:

    Walker I'm not trying to start a debate, but I hear the Replacement thing all the time. The Church is the Spiritual Israel...

    There is nothing wrong with debate. It is what helps us learn and keeps us on our toes bounce

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